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Jon Santiago's avatar

Ironically, Tom, I was talking about vulnerability with our mutual friend Chris yesterday. And I was telling him I think true vulnerability should feel risky. You have to feel a slight sense of discomfort before you do the vulnerable act. There’s got to be that voice of doubt in the back of your mind, telling you to be more cautious, warning you of the negative consequences. If your situation is absent of that, I feel like it’s not true vulnerability.

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Thomas Kuegler's avatar

Great point Jon. That’s what makes it courageous in the first place. You got to be scared. You got to feel like you’re taking a risk writing something or telling a friend something. You do the vulnerability thing very well!

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Blake Roberts | Therapist's avatar

Tom thanks so much for sharing. I’m glad that piece spoke to you. Also the relationship you and your dad have is beautiful and inspiring.

So many great points in this article. Grateful for you continuing this much needed conversation!

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Thomas Kuegler's avatar

Thanks Blake! I’m so happy I follow you.

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Darron D. Hilaire Jnr's avatar

Good on you for taking this step.

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Darron D. Hilaire Jnr's avatar

I come across this alot in my work as coach with men. It’s a joy of mine to see father son relationships flourishing. Well done!

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lizzy madrigal's avatar

This is beautifully written. Thank you for sharing your vulnerability.

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Thomas Kuegler's avatar

Thank you Lizzy! Also, thanks for subscribing. :)

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Henny Hiemenz's avatar

Man Tom this is so great. I’ve been looking for guys that write about this type of stuff. Appreciate it.

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Thomas Kuegler's avatar

Thank you Henny! I can’t wait to dive into this with Dad further and to see his POV on it!! Thanks for reading. We so appreciate every single person who reads.

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Glenna Gill's avatar

This is so timely with Zuck going on Joe Rogan and talking about masculinity culture last week (complete with Little Orphan Annie hair and a pretty necklace). When I think of extreme masculinity as a choice, it seems like an excuse to be a bully and never being accountable for bad behavior.

A real man has empathy. A real man wears his heart on his sleeve at times. A real man plays Barbies with his daughter. A real man is confident in himself and doesn’t need to put on the armor of toxic masculinity out of fear.

Just my two cents. :)

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Thomas Kuegler's avatar

Yes to all of this Glenna. I remember watching Eat, Pray, Love a few years ago and Javier Bardem’s character at the very end struck me as a “real man.” Crying seeing his son go away (I think it was his son) was a good example of that. Men should feel things deeply and express those emotions. I think men in Mexico actually do this pretty decently.

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William Kuegler's avatar

Glenna,

Stay tuned for my response. I have a lot to say about some of the points you made.

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Glenna Gill's avatar

Looking forward to reading it, William. :)

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lizzy madrigal's avatar

Respectfully, as women we should stray away from using the phrase “a real man” in our language. It contributes to the shutting down of emotions. Men are complex, and human (as we are), and that’s real enough.

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Maggie Jon's avatar

As a coach, I see the damage this is doing to men of all ages. It is fucking heartbreaking. I am glad that eventually they feel comfortable enough to open up to me, but I saddens me that I am often the only person they feel they can open up to like that!

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Elin Petronella's avatar

This was brilliant Tom! 👏👏

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An K.'s avatar

Thank you!!

There seems to be a lot of quiet desperation, on both sides .. people not honestly comunicating, afraid of intimacy ( into me see ). It is scary to begin with to share "your insides honestly... and this world as it is, full of pretense and judgment is not helping.

We are constantly told who we are supposed to be, what to look like and how to act .. it starts in school .. ridiculous social norms and expectations. Most people do not feel like they are "enough" anymore. Kindness is often seen as weakness. The message often is: you need this shirt, this car, this product it will "enhance" you, your look and your status, the underlying message: you are not enough.. now we pretend to be perfect.. lol

Men have additional pressure being the provider and such are told that only rich man are successful.. never mind honesty, kindness and other moral values. The rat race does not allow any of that. Sociopaths and psychopaths are the most successful leaders these days .. so now ruthless and heartless are added to the repertoire. For survival.

I read somewhere, we have 3 faces, one we show to everyone, one for friends and loved ones and one that we show noone.

I felt even more disconnected after covid lock downs.. the cyber world, online profiles and "influencers" re- inforced the "fake" and "impersonal".

The suicide rates in teens and young adults is at an all time high.. we all seem to struggle.

Substack is a real reprieve!! :)

Thank you!!

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Leroy Jenkins's avatar

indeed.

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Erica Crall PhD's avatar

Thomas- this is such an important article. Thank you for your vulnerability and honesty.

Please take a de minutes to listen to this song, “To Be A Man” by Dax

Be well amd don’t ever stop growing as a human being

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Thomas Kuegler's avatar

Thank you Erica. I will!

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Reinventing Christianity's avatar

My husband points to a scene from Tombstone (I think) as typical of the most vulnerable men ever get with each other: Says one, “I ain’t got the words” and says the other, “I know.”

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Thomas Kuegler's avatar

Haha that's a great example. Thanks for reading and for the comment.

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Amy Delcambre's avatar

I see you, and I relate having had to figure out my own sources of ennui and anger and then being emotional, apologizing, figuring it out, and just showing up. And I’ll be real—a lot of women don’t speak up about their needs, which leads to them being resentful when they aren’t meant—we really make our own misery, don’t we? I had to realize that I wasn’t being a great partner by just blindly making sure the person I stated’s needs were met—especially when mine weren’t being.

I’ve come to realize it’s really that simple though—know you. Feel your feelings. Acknowledge and honor them. Respect others. Hold space. Put on your own air mask first—then you have a full cup to pour from.

We are human. We will get into that “ego self” or a conditioned response of not advocating for or supporting our needs, to be sure, communication about who we are—about FEELINGS is crucial for the health and success of any and all relationships—especially the one we have with ourselves.

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Claire at Backpacking Bella's avatar

This is a wonderful and important letter, thanks for sharing this Tom. And I also loved A Real Pain - great movie!

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Thomas Kuegler's avatar

Thanks Claire! I love that you saw it. Such a great travel movie in a sense as well.

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Keely H's avatar

Hi Tom! I really enjoyed this article! I watched "A Real Pain" about a month ago, and what struck me most about the movie was that it didn't end with a big resolution between the cousins. I think the movie captured the vulnerability of familial relationships very well. It made me think about how being vulnerable with family—especially while grieving—can be harder than with strangers. It takes time, patience, and courage to share a side of yourself that isn’t often seen by those who know you best.

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Thomas Kuegler's avatar

Keely that's a really good point. I agree with you. I never thought about that until now that the movie didn't end with a big resolution between the cousins. Happy you got to see it. Thank you for reading this!

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Michael Blissenbach's avatar

Tom, have you and your dad seen this great article on the history of male friendships in the USA? There was a cultural shift that happened after WWII that led to today’s predicament. John Wayne was basically an product of the 1950s, that was not the historical norm for male friendships at all.

https://www.artofmanliness.com/people/relationships/the-history-and-nature-of-man-friendships/

The whole Art of Manliness blog is worth checking out in full: lots of great stuff!

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